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This page includes a Soaring Flight Software Comparison of several soaring flight software products.  All the products are designed to run on PDAs (personal digital assistants such a Pocket PCs or Palm devices).

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Birecki

EW to IGC - Download flight logs from your EW logger to your Pocket PC
Flight Analysis - View and analyze your flight log on your Pocket PC
VL to IGC - Download your Volkslogger flight log to your Pocket PC

 
flyWithCE

Navigator - Soaring flight software
Downloader - Flight log download software

Glide Navigator II

Soaring flight software

 
pocket*StrePla Soaring flight software
SeeYou Mobile Soaring flight software
TomTom Navigator5 Street Navigation Software

Soaring Flight Software Comparison

Overview
Cumulus Soaring, Inc. offers 4 options for soaring flight software - flyWithCE Navigator, Glide Navigator II, SeeYou Mobile, and pocket*StrePla.  Each offer distinct advantages.  Below is a summary of each software type.  I have more experience with Glide Navigator II, SeeYou Mobile and pocket*StrePla than the others, but they all have unique features that make them interesting.  They are competitive products, but they appeal to different pilots.  I have tried to be fair and include every software package available in the table below.  Some of the options below are much more popular than the others.  In my opinion, the most popular options on a worldwide basis are SeeYou Mobile, WinPilot, Glide Navigator II, pocket*StrePla, and Soaring Pilot, but I don't have any sales numbers to back-up my popularity estimates.

Pocket PC Tips
Pocket PCs are amazing devices. They offer a lot of processor power and a user-friendly touchscreen user interface in a small package. A large market keeps the prices relatively low. However, there are some things you need to know when you start using a Pocket PC. Reading and following the directions in this document will save you many hours of frustration at the airport and will help assure that your Pocket PC is ready for the big flight when you are. Every time you buy a new Pocket PC you should go through this document with the Pocket PC in hand.  Pocket PC Tips.pdf

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Comparison Table
To make the table below fit on the screen I have moved a few of the less popular products to a 2nd row which is found below the main table.  Please note that I'm not 100% certain of the data in the table below.  I've done my best to get complete and accurate data, but some of it is difficult to find.  If you see any errors or have any suggestions for the table below please let me know.  My goal is to make the table as accurate and complete as possible.

Soaring Flight Software Comparison Table - Most Popular Products - More below
 
  flyWithCE Navigator Glide Navigator II pocket*StrePla Soaring Pilot SeeYou Mobile WinPilot
Price $150 $95 $298 Free $249 $249 or $299
Unique Features Simple, Large fonts, elevation maps, Excellent support for LX Navigation products Very Popular, Simple, Minimal Screen Clutter, Large fonts, Best support for Cambridge GPS-NAV and 302.  Easy in-flight task editing.  Very popular with contest pilots. The best maps available, The only Pocket PC Software with US Sectional Aeronautical Charts, Topographical maps, Neat in-flight optimization of FAI 28% triangles - Fly the first leg and turn toward the 2nd leg and it displays an FAI turn area to turn in to meet the 28% rule.  That is an awesome feature for the FAI-OLC contest.  Great thermal history graph.  Two separately configurable Map pages. Free, The only software for Palm devices, Very Popular Very Popular, Thermal Assistant helps you optimize your thermal centering.  FAI Triangle Assistant - Fly the first leg of a triangle and turn toward the 2nd leg and it displays an FAI turn area to turn in to meet the 28% rule.  That is an awesome feature for the FAI-OLC contest.  Two separately configurable Map pages, Statistics and Info pages. Great thermal history graph.  NAV BOX display option of L/D Required compared with L/D Achieved eliminates all errors for MacCready setting, bugs, wind, etc. and makes it obvious whether or not you will make it to your goal. If you desire an uncluttered screen presentation you can disable the topographical data but still see airports, airspace, cities, rivers, lakes, etc.  Easy to export very large regions of maps to a memory card - perfect for long downwind dash flights. Can do final glide to 1000 m below task start altitude - great for FAI speed tasks. Very Popular, Climb Maximizer helps you optimize your thermal centering, Topographical Maps
From Slovenia New Mexico, USA Germany USA Slovenia Nevada, USA
Operating System Pocket PC
Windows Mobile
Windows CE 2.0
Windows CE 3.0
Pocket PC 2002
Pocket PC 2003
Windows Mobile
Pocket PC
Windows Mobile
Palm OS

Pocket PC
Windows Mobile
(using StyleTap Palm Emulator)
Windows CE 3.0
Pocket PC 2002
Pocket PC 2003
Windows Mobile
Pocket PC
Windows Mobile
Device Pocket PC
(Compaq Aero 1500, iPAQ, etc.)
Pocket PC
(Compaq Aero 1500, iPAQ, etc.)
Pocket PC
(iPAQ, etc.)
Palm, Sony Clie, Garmin iQue, etc.

Pocket PC
(iPAQ, etc.)

(using StyleTap Palm Emulator)
Pocket PC
(Compaq Aero 1550, iPAQ, etc.)
Pocket PC
(iPAQ, etc.)
Languages Supported English English German,
English
English Czech, English, German, Italian, Polish, Slovenian, Spanish English
Reachable airports highlighted on map User selected choices: Required L/D, Required Alt., Arrival Alt.
Automatic Task Start/Finish      
Final Glide Around Multiple Waypoints
Calculates wind speed and direction while circling
  flyWithCE Navigator Glide Navigator II pocket*StrePla Soaring Pilot SeeYou Mobile WinPilot
Wind speed and direction at several altitudes    
Large Fonts (5 is larges, 1 is smallest) 4
(18 or 24 point)
5 3 4 5 ?
User selectable font sizes for text on map (map)      
Differential Final Glide (Difference between required altitude and current altitude)
Turnpoint Area Task Support
Special Use Airspace displayed on moving map
Special Use Airspace Warnings
Color Vector Terrain Maps     2 Map pages with individual configuration
Maps with roads, lakes, cities, etc.      
US Sectional Aeronautical Charts          
  flyWithCE Navigator Glide Navigator II pocket*StrePla Soaring Pilot SeeYou Mobile WinPilot
Easy Transfer of Waypoint, SUA and Map data   Cambridge .dat format
Download from internet
Export from SeeYou or Strepla
From StrePla SeeYou ".cup" format
Cambridge .dat format
From SeeYou  
Map Orientation North Up
Track Up
Pan
North Up
Track Up
North Up
South Up
West Up
East Up
Goal Up
Track Up
North Up
Track Up
Course Up
North Up
South Up
West Up
East Up
Goal Up
Track Up
Heading Up
North Up When Circling
North Up
Track Up
In-flight optimization     OLC Tasks, FAI Triangles   OLC, 3 TP Free Flight & FAI Triangles ?
FAI 28% Rule Turnpoint areas displayed in flight       ?
FAI 28% Rule Turnpoint areas displayed while creating tasks     ?
Thermal History Data (Climb rate achieved in previous thermals) Average and Height/Strength Histograms of last 4 thermals       Average and Height/Strength Histograms of last 4 thermals  
Tracks statistics for multiple tasks at once          
"Climb Maximizer" or "Thermal Assistant" (Helps you center thermals)         Pro Version - when used with some flight computers
Flight Track displayed with colors to indicated lift and sink encountered.    
Thermal Average Display Average and Height/Strength Histograms of last 4 thermals   Average and Height/Strength Histograms of last 4 thermals  
  flyWithCE Navigator Glide Navigator II pocket*StrePla Soaring Pilot SeeYou Mobile WinPilot
Terrain Elevation      
Final Glide over Terrain      
Final Glide to 1000 m (3281 feet) below start altitude - great for FAI speed tasks ?     ?
Log flight to an IGC file format (not usable for badges or records)
Use Terrain database to display altitude AGL    
Statistics for each leg completed and total flight No, but Analyze can   Not for each leg but for total flight Task, Last hour, or whole flight
Display IGC flight log file after the flight No, but Analyze can  
Replay IGC flight log file after the flight      
 
Compatibility with GPS Flight Recorders
(See key below)
Flight Recorder or Flight Computer flyWithCE Navigator Glide Navigator II pocket*StrePla Soaring Pilot SeeYou Mobile WinPilot
"Generic" GPS (Garmin, Transplant, etc.) PA PA PA PA PA PA
Borgelt B50 with Volkslogger PA, Pr, MC, Ps PA PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, MC, S, Wp PA, Pr PA, Pr, Tsk, Ps?
Cambridge Aero Instruments GPS-NAV (Does not send GPS Altitude but does send pressure altitude.) PA PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, Wp, MC, Ps, S PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Tsk, S, Wp PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, Wp PA, Pr, Ps, ?
Cambridge Aero Instruments 302 and 302A PA, Pr, MC PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, MC, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, MC, Wp, S PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, Wp, MC, Vol PA, Pr, Tsk, ?
EW microRecorder PA PA PA PA, Pr? PA, Pr, Tsk, Wp PA
Garmin with Pressure Sensor PA PA PA PA, Pr PA, Pr PA
Garrecht Volkslogger PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk, Wp PA, Pr, Tsk, Lgt, MC, S, Wp PA, Pr PA, Pr, Tsk, ?
LX Navigation Colibri PA, Pr, Ps, Lg PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Pr, Tsk, Lg, MC, S, Wp PA, Pr PA, Pr, ?
LX Navigation LX20 PA, Pr, Ps, Lg PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Pr, Tsk, Lg, MC, S, Wp PA, Pr PA, Pr, ?
LX Navigation LX160, LX7000 PA, Pr, MC, Ps, Lg PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA, Pr, Tsk, Lg, MC, S, Wp PA, Pr PA, Pr, ?
LX Navigation LX1600 PA, Pr, MC, Ps, S PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Lg, Tsk PA PA, Pr, MC, Vol PA, Pr, ?
Scheffel Automation Themi PA PA PA PA PA PA
Westerboer VW921 PA, Pr, MC PA PA PA PA PA
Zander PA, Pr, Ps PA, Pr, Ps ? PA, Pr for SR940, GP940, FP941, ZS1 PA, Pr for SR940, GP940, GP941, ZS1 ?

Key
PA = Receive position and GPS altitude from the flight recorder
Pr = Receive pressure altitude from the flight recorder
Lg = Download Flight Logs from the flight recorder to the Pocket PC
Tsk = Make an IGC Approved Task Declaration in the Flight Recorder
Wp = Upload Waypoints and tasks from Pocket PC to Flight Recorder
MC = Exchange MacCready between the Pocket PC software and the flight recorder
Ps = Tie software password to flight recorder serial number
S = Edit Setup Parameters in the flight recorder such as waypoint arrival radius, units, etc.
Vol = Volume

Product Comparison table of other products

Soaring Flight Software Comparison Table - More Products
 
  CEGlide Cumulus
(not related to Cumulus Soaring, Inc.)
GPS_LOG XCSoar
Price $199 Free Free Free
Open Source Code
Unique Features Interesting table with arrival altitude vs. speed-to-fly, Inter-thermal Performance value shows how well pilot is utilizing lift between thermals including course deviations. Easy in-flight task editing. Emergency Goto sorts landable fields by altitude required to reach, taking wind into account Free, Only software for Linux devices Free, Popular - Vector maps show hills shaded on downwind side
 - Reachable terrain footprint
- Satelite images of waypoints
- Enroute Supplement details on airfields
- Abort/resume task mode
- AutoMacReady
- Estimation and display of glider heading when flying in wind
- Fullscreen mode (hide infoboxes)
- Mark current positions
- Audio vario (based on GPS or real vario if attached)
- Netto vario
- Detection of takeoff time
- Estimated time of arrival at next waypoint, end of task
- Calculation of optimum inter-thermal track
From Texas, USA Europe California, USA Australia,
Europe, USA
Operating System Pocket PC Linux Pocket PC Pocket PC 2002 & 2003
Device Pocket PC
(Compaq Aero 1500, iPAQ, etc.)
Android, Ubuntu,
and Debian
Pocket PC
(Compaq Aero 1500, iPAQ, etc.)
Pocket PC
(iPAQ, etc.)

 

Languages Supported English English & German English English
Reachable airports highlighted on map    
Automatic Task Start/Finish      
Final Glide Around Multiple Waypoints Around 1 TP   Around 1 TP
Calculates wind speed and direction while circling
  CEGlide Cumulus GPS_LOG XCSoar
Wind speed and direction at several altitudes    
Large Fonts (5 is largest, 1 is smallest) 3 4
(22 point)
5 3
User selectable font sizes for text on map        
Differential Final Glide (Difference between required altitude and current altitude)
Turnpoint Area Task Support  
Special Use Airspace displayed on moving map
Special Use Airspace Warnings      
Color Vector Terrain Maps  
Maps with roads, lakes, cities, etc.  
US Sectional Aeronautical Charts        
  CEGlide Cumulus GPS_LOG XCSoar
Easy Transfer of Waypoint, SUA and Map data        
Map Orientation       North up
Track up
(separate choice for circling)
In-flight optimization        
FAI 28% Rule Turnpoint areas displayed in flight        
FAI 28% Rule Turnpoint areas displayed while creating tasks      
Thermal History Data (Climb rate achieved in previous thermals)    
Tracks statistics for multiple tasks at once        
Climb Maximizer (Helps you center thermals)      
Flight Track displayed with colors to indicated lift and sink encountered.    
Thermal Average Display  
  CEGlide Cumulus GPS_LOG XCSoar
Terrain Elevation  
Final Glide over Terrain  
Log flight to an IGC file format (not usable for badges or records)
Use Terrain database to display altitude AGL   ? ?
Statistics for each leg completed and total flight No but CEReview can No, but KFLog/E can ?
Display IGC flight log file after the flight   No, but KFLog/E can    
Replay IGC flight log file after the flight        
 
Compatibility with GPS Flight Recorders
(See key below)
Flight Recorder or Flight Computer CEGlide Cumulus GPS_LOG XCSoar
"Generic" GPS (Garmin, Transplant, etc.) PA PA PA, Pr (Garmin Summit) PA, Pr
Borgelt B50 with Volkslogger PA, Pr, MC PA PA,Pr,Tsk, MC (to PPC) PA, Pr, Mc
Cambridge Aero Instruments GPS-NAV (Does not send GPS Altitude but does send pressure altitude.) PA, Pr PA PA,Tsk  
Cambridge Aero Instruments 302 and 302A PA, Pr PA PA,Pr,Tsk, MC (to
PPC)
PA, Pr, Mc, Tsk, Wp
EW microRecorder PA PA PA PA
Garmin with Pressure Sensor PA PA PA PA, Pr
Garrecht Volkslogger PA, Pr PA PA,Pr,Tsk PA, Pr
LX Navigation Colibri PA PA PA,Pr,Tsk PA, Pr
LX Navigation LX20 PA PA PA,Pr, Tsk  
LX Navigation LX160, LX7000 PA PA PA,Pr,Tsk PA, Pr
LX Navigation LX1600 PA PA PA,Pr,Tsk PA, Pr
Scheffel Automation Themi PA PA PA  
Westerboer VW921 PA PA PA, Pr
 
 
Zander PA PA PA,Pr  

Key
PA = Receive position and GPS altitude from the flight recorder
Pr = Receive pressure altitude from the flight recorder
Lg = Download Flight Logs from the flight recorder to the Pocket PC
Tsk = Make an IGC Approved Task Declaration in the Flight Recorder
Wp = Upload Waypoints and tasks from Pocket PC to Flight Recorder
MC = Exchange MacCready between the Pocket PC software and the flight recorder
Ps = Tie software password to flight recorder serial number
S = Edit Setup Parameters in the flight recorder such as waypoint arrival radius, units, etc.
Vol = Volume

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